If a self driving car is caught speeding, who gets the ticket?

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01/13/2016 at 20:58 • Filed to: None

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The owner or the car manufacturer ?


DISCUSSION (14)


Kinja'd!!! TheHondaBro > Wacko
01/13/2016 at 20:59

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The car will obey the posted speed limit no matter what. If the car is exceeding the speed limit however, that must mean the “driver” was intervening, therefore the “driver” gets the ticket.

Fuck you, Google, I don’t want to put quotations around driver for the rest of my life.


Kinja'd!!! beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > TheHondaBro
01/13/2016 at 21:03

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What if there are two occupants? Who is the driver?


Kinja'd!!! That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Wacko
01/13/2016 at 21:06

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Owner first, then you’d probably have to prove to the police and manufacturer that the car’s calibration is off. That’s assuming you’ve got it set for the posted limit but the car has got it wrong.

If you set it over the limit then it’s over the limit, and the owner gets the ticket.


Kinja'd!!! E92M3 > Wacko
01/13/2016 at 21:08

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If a dog gets caught running around off leash who gets the fine? The dog, the owner, or the breeder?


Kinja'd!!! Urambo Tauro > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
01/13/2016 at 21:15

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We’re still a long way off from 100% FULLY autonomous cars. Until then, someone will be sitting in the seat where the manual controls are. That’s the driver’s seat, and the person sitting in it will be considered the operator.


Kinja'd!!! XJDano > E92M3
01/13/2016 at 21:21

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The dog that’s in heat he is chasing.


Kinja'd!!! RacinBob > Wacko
01/13/2016 at 21:21

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The programmer?


Kinja'd!!! XJDano > Wacko
01/13/2016 at 21:21

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Deep thoughts:

One parks on a driveway & drives on a parkway.


Kinja'd!!! beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Urambo Tauro
01/13/2016 at 21:23

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I agree. But that’s not in the spirit of the question.

Currently the laws would be the same as if you were speeding on cruise control. But what about when you are essentially a passenger with a computerised taxi?


Kinja'd!!! E92M3 > XJDano
01/13/2016 at 21:26

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It’s always a bitch’s fault!


Kinja'd!!! Urambo Tauro > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard
01/13/2016 at 21:29

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I suspect that for a fully autonomous car, such a ticket would be issued to the owner of the vehicle. It would then be up to the owner to pay the ticket (for illegal modification?) or go after the manufacturer. It would probably be similar to Toyota’s “unintended acceleration” situation.


Kinja'd!!! Wacko > Urambo Tauro
01/13/2016 at 22:08

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I'm gonna hate the future.


Kinja'd!!! beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > Urambo Tauro
01/14/2016 at 01:19

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I’m thinking along the lines of :
1 . you receive a fine stating you were travelling 50 in a 40 zone.

2 . you provide evidence from a system report that the vehicle was operating under the assumption that the speed limit was 50
3 a . your vehicle has missed a mandatory service/calibration - you cop the fine as well as a mandate to have your vehicle rectified
3 b . you are up to date with your service and calibration, and investigation shows that an unavoidable anomaly has caused the vehicle to misbehave. The driver is not responsible and a notice to rectify is send to the manufacturer/vendor etc.

All this could happen within seconds of the speed breach being detected, there’s no reason the speed detection systems of the future need to wait days or weeks to notify the driver. It could be a speed camera that talks to your vehicle or a smart road or something.


Kinja'd!!! gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Wacko
01/17/2016 at 15:18

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owner. no manufacturer is going to program a car to break the law.

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